Ok so had a question about what can you do if you have noisy neighbors here.
As most of you know i am building my new house here now and the main reason i moved out of my old place that we were very happy with was the noisy neighbors.
After living in several different houses here about 6 years ago i sold my house and moved in with my then spanish girlfriend who had a nice 3 bed apartment. We always intended to one day buy a house together but were very comfortable in her apartment. We lived there 5 years then the community started letting people rent out their apartments and we had all sorts of people come and go and these people did not abide to the community rules or pay the bills so we had a constant stream of new neighbors in the last 2 years.
These were the problems we had.
There was a nice community pool that was very well looked after and we all paid monthly for the upkeep. Many of the renters did not pay and that meant the rest had to pay more but these renters still used the pool and grounds. The community started legal proceedings against these renters but that takes months and they move out.
Below my lovely old community building.
Also one guy had a big dog that he put out on the terrace when he went to work each day and the dog barked all day. Then we had a signal woman and a young child next door and the young girl had behavior problems and made a lot of noise at night.
So what can you do?
On a community you have to go to the community president and he or she then takes action by first speaking to the person then other measures if needed. Our building president was useless and after time my Wife put her name in the hat and was voted the president of the community. We thought this would help us get things done as my wife works for the government here and is very resourceful.
First off we got a night guard who made sure that the pool was not used after hours so people could sleep. great now no noise at nights. Then the community backed her idea of having passes and a key to use the pool only if residents had paid the community charges. Thats fair No? all good so far.
Then the guy with the dog.
After talking to him he was not prepared to do anything so we called the police. They have no power at all unless the noise is after 12pm then you can call them and they will come out. that didnt help as the dog was only on the terrace in the day times. There is nothing that you can do . We found out that you can make a civil noise complaint in the town hall but that takes time and costs money and they have very little power to do anything.
Our screaming child.
After talking to the woman next door about her screaming child at night the woman said that the child had problems and she could not stop it. about 3 times a week the young girl would bang on the thin walls and scream. I feel sorry for the woman and appreciate her problems but we could not sleep in our own beds in our own house. When you have to get up for work each day and you have not had a good nights sleep it starts to get you down. In the end we were forced to call the police several times in the middle of the night and they came out and spoke to the woman but nothing could be done. This went on for months.
There are official complaints that you can make and a “Denuncia” this is a formal complaint that you make at the police station that then goes to court. We didnt want to do this but it was just getting worse each week. We did in the end do this and About a week before we were due to go to court the woman moved out so we canceled the denuncia.
The walls in the apartment buildings here in Spain are very thin and badly constructed as most building companies did not have to do anything about noise reduction but that has now changed on new builds here. Not much help if you are buying an older property.
Even being president of the community gives you little power if all the residents dont back you and this is hard as many are now renting out and dont even live in the buildings or nearby. They just want the rent money so not bothered about who is in there as long as they get the rents.
This is a big problem all over Spain and if you live in a community apartment block you will have these sorts of problems unless you are very lucky. Neighbors change in time so you are living in hope all the time that you get good neighbors.
In the end we decided to look for another place to live and then decided to build new.
I know not everyone can move out when they want so you need to be very careful when you choose your apartment. There are now many places that have very strict rules and some only rent or let you buy if you follow these strict rules.
Having a lovely place with beautiful pool and grounds can come with its problems so just be carful when buying thats why i always say rent there first to get to know the place. If you have bad neighbors there is very little that you can do about if here.
Have you had problems like this here? What did you do?
Remember there are some new laws that came out this year 2021 that give animals more rights and so the police have more powers over dogs barking and problems you may have with treatment of animals in Spain.. see these new laws here.